Sunday, August 21, 2011

Move The Crowd: How Much Does Crowd Reaction Count In A Battle?



MC. Move The Crowd. Master of Ceremonies. If you know hip hop you know the power behind those 2 simple letters and what they stand for. If you're a rapper, hell if you're a musician PERIOD, and you cant move the crowd, show's over. Exit stage left. Get him the fuck outta here (© @DNA2K10). All you have is your words and your microphone. There's a lot happening on the stage also: DJ, hypemen, lights, but right now it's all eyes on you and the people want to be captivated and controlled.


In the world of battle rap, crowd reaction counts a lot. The "oohhs" "aahhs" and laughs is what the rappers aim for when they're spittin. Sometimes rappers dont get the reaction they're hoping for even if the rhyme is good. At URL's Summer Madness, niggas got BOOED if the crowd felt they were hearing some weak shit. As the footage starts to come out you'll see this. So herein lies the controversy, if you will. If the rhymes are good to the people watching the youtube footage even tho the crowd didnt like it, does the rapper still lose?



I got into as little debate with my partner in crime Bell and St. Louis battle MC Hitman Holla. After seeing the Tsu Surf vs K-Shine battle from Summer Madness everyone agreed that Shine's first round was crazy. One of the best first rounds ever to some people. While Surf was consistent throughout the all 3 of his rounds, Shine got booed in rounds 2 and 3. So giving round 1 to Shine easily, and Surf round 2, round 3 being debatable cuz they both did alright (altho I still think Surf was more consistent) does K-Shine lose for being booed?


It's a double edged sword in the battle world for some odd reason. They say all that matters is bars, fuck how the crowd reacts. But isnt the whole point of a fucking battle is to outrap your opponent in front of a CROWD? Shouldnt you be trying to win the crowd over too? If the crowd didnt matter niggas would be battling over beats and these leagues wouldnt exist. Hitman Holla's defense was the crowd in Philly when Arsonal battled E. Ness. Arsonal clearly had better bars but Ness had the crowd completely on his side and they were loving the hometown hero. Hey, I'd still say Arsonal lost. Hitman came to New York and battled Cortez and not only did he win off bars, he won the crowd over. He did it again when he came back to New York and battled Arsonal (who also got booed).


Another example would be Aye Verb vs. Big Will in St Louis. They're both from St Louis so there's no crowd bias but despite having some of gayest and corniest lines ever heard in a battle, Will won the crowd over. Verb EASILY had better bars but he just didnt have the crowd and people said he lost.


Here's my thing basically, since so many rappers that performed at Summer Madness wont stop crying and making excuses. No matter how great of a rapper you think you are, If you get BOOED, you lost. No exception. This battle shit encompasses so many elements as an artist, lyricist and performer. Your performance is crucial homie. If the 1000+ people in front of you arent feeling your bars and presence then what the fuck? Back to the drawing board nigga. Step it up next time. You know what you came here to do and you blew it. Just remember, aint too many chances on this stage.



9 comments:

  1. phoenixxx! i love this post for starters. secondly, i agree with it for the most part (about MCing). i beg to differ though when we get to the part about getting boo'd = losing. when i watch a battle, i do my best to not get too sidetracked by the crowd. Oftentimes, a crowd comes into the event with a clear favorite. they're going to ride for their favorite. in that battle, Surf was the clear favorite. when they boo'd KShine, there was no reason to boo him. can you honestly say that he said something boo-worthy? same with Ars. overall, i feel like that was a wack battle in general, but Ars was better than Ness. To sum it up, it is my personal opinion that the crowd matters to a certain extend. if they are booing because someone sucks, okay. but if they are booing just to boo, that doesnt matter.

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  2. Yes there was reason to boo Shine. Aside from wack bars like "I make it rain there like Rudolph" he ran the 16 Year-old girlfriend joke into the ground. It was fire in the first round. Second round it was worth a smirk. Third round we were all like "Ok....we get it. can you rap about something else now?"

    The URL crowd doesnt boo for the sake of booing. We have the realest audience Everyone got booed for a reason at Summer Madness.

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  3. Booing cuz some1 is wack is 1 thing! That URL stage U rarely see some1 wack! Id say never! Booing usually starts by a hater who's drunk and prob has nothing going for himself! Now If they r booing because a line was sub par then I expect u to be the loudest nigga up in there when a nigga say a crazy line! Which isn't always the case! Momentum is key in this game and consistancy! To me a nigga lose cuz he lost not cuz he got Boo'd! A lot of dickriders in this world b! A nigga might join in on a boo just cuz he thinks its funny! These Guys put in there work! But the true triuphant one is the one who returns after being Boo'd and catches a body! Lyrically that is! Against his next opponent! No1 is undefeatable! ----1Huned --FlashLifeNyc

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  4. I think it was a good article but I don't agree

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  5. i dont think the rudolph line was booable. maybe it wasnt the hottest line, but it wsa filler. surf had fillers. the 16 yr old thing wasnt wack. they booed him just because. now, i totally disagree when you say the crowd doesnt boo for no reason. anonymous made a great point when saying that boos start by a drunkard or a hater. i agree completely. i cant speak for the whole summer madness because i wasnt there, but i cant believe that niggas would come with wack material worth a boo to the biggest battle event.

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  6. The things that matter in my opinion in a battle are Barz, delivery, performance, Crowd control and stage presence. The very top battlers have all of these key principles (Hollow, hitman, Surf to name a few). Most rappers only have 1 or 2 now for Shine vs Surf in Shine 1st round he had all Barz, delivery, performance, crowd control and stage presence. As did Surf but Shine cleary took that round. In the second round Shine barz were very generic and after having such a flawless 1st rd the crowd turned on him because he set the bar so high. To me he had a theme and a story that 1 st rd for the 2nd and 3rd rd it just seem like it was random filler mixed in with some nice barz here and there. But Surf was consistent in his attack, the theme of surf attack was to expose Shine as a follower that will always be a sidekick to Mook and Rex.

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  7. BrooklynWavy great great way to break down that battle... I agree all the way with what u wrote. He def set that bar high! More like a 3rd round instead of first.. meaning in hindsight he prob would've won if he saved it for last.

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  8. @FlashLifenyc Thanks. Exactly if he had that has his third round i think he might have edged Surf for that win. Also, i think Shine is at his best when he slows down his rds and spits like he did in that first round...As much as his energy and screaming is one of his signature attributes i think fans miss alot of what he's saying when he does that... Which to me was evident in this battle...

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